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作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-1 10:46
标题: 457退税的问题


我的雇主说457 IT的最低年薪在6万2千多,他说最后会退1万5千多左右的税,请持457签证的同学们解释一下。谢谢。<br />
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作者: 97gyhutpc7    时间: 2011-4-1 16:07


Your employer is laying.and please dont cheat regarding this.Not worth doing that. Please check ato as reference. http://www.ato.gov.au/individual ... 58&amp;mfp=001/002.

I got $4100 return last year as Income Before Tax(IBT) is 105K/year.please dont not expect too much from OZ government.China V5!!(rich man not allowed to pay tax!you understand)



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-1 19:32




谢谢,
我认为我的雇主可能算错了或者有他的办法,他没有理由骗我的。



作者: 投诉沃尔玛    时间: 2011-4-1 19:45




我猜他可能是说你要交15000的税,置于能返多少要看个人情况。

如果你老公不工作,可能能退3000,如果工作,或不过来,可能退1000。我不是会计,可能会计能帮你多退点。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-2 01:02




他过几天来中国,再问问他。
这几天忙着写简历。



作者: 2602812005    时间: 2011-4-2 08:10


你的雇主说的应该是LAFH,针对457签证的持有者的一种特别优惠,个人收入中租房和日常餐饮的支出不作为应纳税所得额,所以一年大概可以少交1万多的税。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-2 20:08




原来这样,还得继续学习,多谢多谢。
弱弱的问一句:什么是LAFH
对了,还想问一下,一年不就是交28.3%的税吗?那总共才将近1万5,我的雇主上回跟我先生说,退税退1万5,那岂不是相抵了?那就相当于没税了,不知道我理解的对不,不解ing

找到这个http://www.hioz.net/ibbs/viewthread.php?tid=936037

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作者: 多路源居士    时间: 2011-4-3 01:17


澳洲的个人所得税是超额累进税率,不是什么28.3%的固定税率。

LAFH是一种税收优惠,不是交了再退,是根本就不交,简单地说,你的工资是,扣除租房和日常餐饮支出后的金额作为应纳税所得额,也就是缴税的计算基数。

例如工资6万,两项支出合计3万,那么你只要按照3万作为个人收入缴税就OK啦,不过政府对应纳税所得额貌似有下限,你应该自己去查一查,确认一下



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-3 11:19




非常感谢,继续学习ing



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-3 20:39


好多需要注意的,签合同时签
permanent eployee 是没有LAFHA政策的
签成contractor ,就有
继续学习ing

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作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-4 06:56




呵呵,刚刚在搜索里得到这个答案,的确跟合同类型无关。
http://www.hioz.net/ibbs/viewthread.php?tid=762110

想问问您,他说远离家,是指中国吗?怎么我看有人说远离在澳洲的住处才能拿LAFHA
居然还有人说有的公司不给办理LAFHA,因为怀疑雇员有移民倾向,如果被ATO发现,公司有cheating嫌疑。我晕。

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作者: 80gyhucra5    时间: 2011-4-4 07:59


好像也有澳洲本地人住在别的state的情况也可以有LAFH的,记不清了。

LAFH是名正言顺的税务优惠,跟移民倾向有什么关系。话说回来,作为457申请了175或者176,只要在VISA正式批准以前,照样享有LAFH的待遇,这都已经是明目张胆的准备移民了。所以我觉得这跟ATO根本没关系,听上去更像是公司的借口。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-4 14:08




那公司不对了,为啥不让雇员多挣点啊。公司也不用掏钱,都是政府的事情。
多谢。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-4 23:58


What is a living away from home allowance fringe benefit?
A living away from home allowance is an allowance the employer pays to an employee to compensate for additional expenses incurred and any disadvantages suffered because the employee is required to live away from their usual place of residence in order to perform their employment-related duties. The term 'additional expenses' does not include expenses the employee would be entitled to claim as an income tax deduction.

Examples of employees on appointments of finite duration who will generally be living away from their usual place of residence are foreign nationals employed in Australia (expatriate employees).

The employee would be regarded as living away from the usual place of residence provided that they intend to return there at the end of the term of the transfer.

An employee is regarded as living away from their usual place of residence if they could have continued to live at the former place if they did not have to work temporarily in a different locality. The residence does not have to be the employee's permanent place of residence.

Employees who move to a new locality with an intention to return to their old locality at the end of the appointment would generally be treated as living away from their usual place of residence.

A 457 Visa holder is normally allowed to claim this allowance from the Employer, and it is the Employer who has to handle all the paperwork.

You do need to complete a declaration stating what your Usual Place of Residence is for each period, and an example of this is at ATO Link



Financial Benefits ?

The financial benefits vary depending on each appointment, and on how much each employer decides, and is allowed by the Tax Office, to allocate as the Tax Free payment towards living expenses.

I have seen figures where about $1,000 per month is paid Tax Free by the employer to cover allowable living costs.&nbsp;&nbsp;This will normally be deducted from your agreed total salary package.&nbsp;&nbsp;(This figure could be more, or even less, depending on individual circumstances)

eg: $100,000 per year normal salary would attract Tax/Medicare of $29,350 per year (2006/2007 rates), leaving you with $70,650 per year net.

With $1,000 per month set as LAFHA, the gross salary would become $88,000 with Tax/Medicare of $24,371 per year (2006/2007 rates), leaving you with $75,629 per year net, after adding back the LAFHA paid to you.&nbsp;&nbsp;ie: Almost $5,000 per year better off.



How much is a reasonable figure for the Food component in a LAFHA (Living away from home) claim ?

That is a question I was asked recently, and I came across some figures for the 2007 tax year at www.law.ato.gov.au, which show the following figures:
$206 per week for the first adult, $330 for two Adults, $370 for two adults and two children.&nbsp;&nbsp;HOWEVER, these figures need to be reduced by an amount that you would normally expect to pay for food at home.&nbsp;&nbsp;In 2007 this was $42 pw per adult and $21 per week per child.



Applying for Permanent Residence Visa

Based on the Australian Tax Office (ATO) statement that a living away from home allowance (LAFHA) is for people who intend to return to their usual place of residence, it is logical that the LAFHA is no longer tax free from the date an application to become a Permanent Resident is made.


Refunding the LAFHA benefits

There are cases where people have claimed the LAFHA, but then the ATO do not allow the claim.&nbsp;&nbsp;When this happens, any benefit must be repaid.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have read that changes such as selling their former home can trigger this event


转自http://www.hioz.net/ibbs/viewthread.php?tid=787415

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作者: czfj2854    时间: 2011-4-5 08:13


也想搞LAFHA,还不知怎么开口~~~



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-5 12:25




雇主不用出任何费用吧。跟他直说吧。



作者: 安沫槿    时间: 2011-4-5 19:26




原贴有误,lafha确实免税

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作者: 天天加1    时间: 2011-4-6 03:31


1.雇主真的要交那么多税吗?
2.如果雇主给你,就一定是雇主找房子么?我看有的好像是你拿着自己的租房合同,然后给雇主,他帮你做好转账,以后每个月同样从工资里扣



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-6 11:05


LAFH的税那么高啊。
那算来算去怎么才合适呢?看到算钱的事我就头大。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-6 13:39




请问有官方说明吗?



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-6 21:39


又在别的论坛看到说LAFHA不用交税,也不知道到底怎么回事,一头雾水中

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作者: 冰鬼鬼丫头    时间: 2011-4-7 07:52


我之前说错了请忽略,在www.lafha.com.au找到下面的话

Some employers currently don't offer LAFHA to employees

LAFHA&nbsp; &nbsp;involves&nbsp; &nbsp;complex&nbsp; &nbsp;regulations&nbsp; &nbsp;and compliance&nbsp; &nbsp;issues,&nbsp; &nbsp;and&nbsp; &nbsp;in&nbsp; &nbsp;some&nbsp; &nbsp;companies, there may not be the resources to effectively manage this service for eligible employees. That’s where we come in. Contact us, or introduce www.lafha.com.au to your employer.

另外,他们有Free LAFHA Assessment

补充,我没用过他们的服务



作者: 小鱼儿的悲伤    时间: 2011-4-7 15:59




是我错了



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-7 18:22




哈哈,只要不用交钱就行,没事,大家都在学习吗。我倒是挺享受这个过程的。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-8 00:23




请问,您用的LAFHA,老板交税了吗?



作者: he44o7pqq    时间: 2011-4-8 07:08




我没有用LAFHA



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-8 11:46




请问LAFHA和salary package是一回事吗?



作者: 背上爱情去流浪    时间: 2011-4-8 13:39


salary packaging 的一种吧

LAFHA is not available once you apply for a PR visa (not just once you receive PR)
因为你已经不能算away from home了



作者: 安沫槿    时间: 2011-4-8 17:53




我在澳洲的时候09年以前,是这样执行的,但09年以后政策变了,只要PR没有grant就可以继续享受LAFHA。不知道现在的状况



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-9 05:41


感觉应该是批准pr前都算away from home
不过上面那句话有人理解为澳洲的home。



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-9 11:33


是现在开始职业评估还是等到5月份公布新清单呢?迷惑中



作者: hau750jwy    时间: 2011-4-9 15:24


interesting.
多谢lz。学到了好多东西~~~都不知道有这个的存在。。。。还好工作开始之前看到了~~~



作者: 秋日里的骄阳    时间: 2011-4-10 03:04


我想大家想多了。根本就不是什么福利什么LAFHA&nbsp;&nbsp;的问题。

澳洲中等收入阶层的税大概是税前 20%&nbsp;&nbsp;所以 6万多税前收入,从公司缴税就大概是1万多。
但是457 是临时签证,其实是对澳洲政府没有任何贡献的,因为持有人离开澳洲的时候,可以向税局把所有曾经所缴税收,以及养老保险全都refund&nbsp;&nbsp;回来。所以你的公司说最后能退1万多税,应该没算错。
也就是因为这样,有不少持457 的 并不着急也不想提前申请PR。 因为一旦申请PR 也就不再享有这种临时签证的“福利”



作者: vk3j1j7h    时间: 2011-4-10 12:57




这个太夸张了。
养老金是可以要回来的,没听说过税还能要回来。



作者: yhwwvjlp    时间: 2011-4-10 18:58




嗯,是说的不正确,应该是所有养老金以及部分税收-根据你的 residency status 而定。
http://www.ato.gov.au/individual ... =/content/64045.htm



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-11 05:00




互相学习,不客气



作者: adi9hdirg    时间: 2011-4-11 16:07




那如果资格够了,申请pr,而一直没有离开澳洲,那是不是就不能退回来了?

不过能有LAFHA ,也不错啊。

大家都努力跟雇主申请LAFHA 。



作者: 9304013cpk    时间: 2011-4-11 22:00


我也有此疑问. 这个LAFHA是应该工作开始就马上申请,然后每月refund一定的额度呢?还是CONTRACT结束之后CLAIM回来呢?



作者: pzhjy111    时间: 2011-4-12 02:37


LAFHA 这个东西,之前也研究过。

被雇主告知,除非你明确自己没有移民(意愿)倾向,合同期满后愿意回到自己的国家。否则雇主不建议做这个。雇主提供更好的Salary packaging可用。

为何不建议用LAFHA?
HR/Payroll的答复:因为如果之后你需要雇主担保(有移民倾向,和之前的申请的申明抵触),雇主可能会被移民局质疑,帮雇员做假证明避税。所以雇主是不愿意干这事儿的。当然,你若是走175,那和雇主就没啥关系了。

怕麻烦,所以只用了Salary packaging,觉得已经很不错了。457记得申请Medicare Levy exemption。



作者: 社会病态    时间: 2011-4-12 10:01


我这里有答案了,
有了lafha,每个月大概多了税后1000多刀,因为这部分免税,免掉的就是1000多刀的税,
这个和申请pr无关的,收到官方回信的。
不过我老公公司的hr也说,申请了pr,这个就没啦。
没办法,鱼与熊掌不可兼得啊







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